Do You Find It Amusing That There Are So Many Gun Experts?
with no knowledge of firearms? i see a lot of answers here in this section from what can only be kids whose firearms knowledge comes from hollywood, tv and video games, no real life exp. There might be 10 answers all saying the same thing, then comes junior with his headfull of misinformation giving a 180 out answer. why do they do it, is it point gaming or an attempt at some kind of humour only they understand?
Related posts
Tags: Amusing, Experts, Find, hollywood tv, knowledge, knowledge comes from, life exp, lot, Many, section, There
Posted on November 15th, 2009 at 2:38 am
Im probably one of those people you are talking about, I usually just try and offer my advice but I don’t have alot of experience.. Im only 24. The experience I do have comes from my personal experience with firearms, Ive bought some good ones and some REALLY bad ones but I think my current collection is made up of alot of the good ones. Im not a FFL or a Gunsmith, just the owner of 26 guns.
Posted on November 15th, 2009 at 8:24 am
This is a big problem in all categories on here. In martial Arts, I see boys telling absurd tales about Bruce Lee, and sometimes, they even have questions and answers removed that disagree with their dumb beliefs. Something is wrong with the system that allows ignorant people to take over a category and perpetuate wrong ideas. In this category, the people with no knowledge can cause deaths. I’ve seen several questions about what pistols or revolvers to carry in case someone encounters dangerous animals. I just answered one this week by someone who was going to be in an area where there are cougars. He gave best answer to someone who advised him to carry a Glock. I’d want a pistol more powerful than any Glock. To answer your question, I don’t find it amusing that so many egotistical morons spread their ignorance here. I wish I knew how to remedy this deplorable situation. Someone who doesn’t care if he causes people to die or have awful problems from following bad advice just to get some points on here is a moral monstrosity.
Posted on November 15th, 2009 at 9:21 am
funny in some cases , no doubt point gaming but if it were about sewing or something of that nature i would not care.
when i read some of the answers given about guns ( as well as questions ) i am glad i live alone in the mountains.
many of the answers can be dangerous or downright deadly.
it would be nice if those people would stick to things they know like how to use a knitting needle or pick their nose and leave serious questions to be answered by people who actually know what they are talking about.
guns are not a game
Posted on November 15th, 2009 at 11:01 am
you assume everyone that answers a (?) is an expert. are you? people just like to share their knowledge as misgiven as it maybe sometimes. i’ve seen self proclaimed experts that have actually never shot a real firearm. me i just go by what i’ve studied and used in life to answer a question to the best of my knowledge. with that i suggest they also talk to people at different proshops to get their opion. even the so called experts don’t have all the answers as i’ve found out over the last 35yrs of firearms use. next time junoir comes over tell him his information is wrong and explain to him why. yall have a nice day now.
Posted on November 15th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
some are intentionally messing with us, others think if it was on TV it must be real, others crack me up, and some scare the crap out of me!
shoot safe
Posted on November 15th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
I think it is the desire to play with the ‘big boys’. Every kid thinks they are a gun expert and in reality, it is untrue to every extreme. Heck, I’m no expert, but when I answer a question it is to the best of my knowledge, unless I am being a smarta$$. I have been hunting for 25 years and shooting for 30 and know what I know and definitely don’t know everything like some. There are a hand-full of people on here that I would have no trouble taking advice from, but that is like 3%. I wonder if it is a ‘points’ thing? I don’t get it either. Keep your powder dry!
Posted on November 15th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
People will answer with what the think is the truth. The source of that “truth” does not really matter to them if the feel it is reality based.
In answering firearms questions, I limit any answer I give to actual experience gained from hunting and my 20 years of military experience. That pretty much limits me to answering questions about .22 LR semi-auto, 12 ga 870 Remington, .270 cal, and the .45 semi-auto. Most other non general questions fall out of my experience so I just don’t answer.
Posted on November 16th, 2009 at 4:12 am
It doesn’t bode well for the future of the 2nd Amendment. That is why we as knowledgeable gun owners need to educate those who don’t know.
Example, those who think that machine guns are illegal, or that you have to have a Class III FFL to own a machine gun. You see those two mistakes a lot from the “experts”.
Posted on November 16th, 2009 at 10:14 am
not much different than reading these different opinions already put up… biggest amuzing thing has been seeing 74 votes on which pellet is best on two answers to choose from the silent readers are in bulk , why deny access to express opinion.,, example deer eyes focused and fixed shot after dark one voted best answer stated warden bluffing,,, other KID said YAH is fact , i voted for kid only vote looked at doe hit by car,, fixed an dialated ,, kids GUESS was right // CHECKIN shows verticle dialation and nasal thermometer good for evidence of illegal hours shooting
Posted on November 16th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I think a part of the problem is that everyone else believes that they are experts. Aside from the strange answers like shooting mosquitos with a .50 BMG, some people consider others to be idiots just because they have differing opinions. Just because you feel confident about your opinion doesn’t mean you’re right.
Posted on November 16th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
I enjoy the rather well thought out exclamations of brand loyalty.
The vested learned opinions casted about regarding ballistics is overwhelming.
The overall disregard for revolvers has made me re-think my opinion of the .38/357 magnum as a defensive weapon… I am glad the I peek in here … 12 guage slugs are not nearly enough to kill deer of any size without 3.5 mag slugs and a “tactical” shotgun.
We recently learned that a heavy barrel .308 sniper rifle would be the “A” choice for humping around the deer woods…
Yep… how many ways can one ask if getting shot in the head hurts…and why?
And always turn to yahoo if you need advise on loading and shooting a Civil war era cap and ball revolver… can I get a Colt Navy in “airsoft?”
Thumbs Down, Dude!
Jeff
Posted on November 16th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Yeah it’s kinda funny, but also a bit disturbing that there IS so much bad info floating around. These kids with all this bad info are the future gun owners, hunters, shooters of our country, is it any wonder a socialist got elected to our highest office?
Posted on November 17th, 2009 at 12:49 am
Studies have proven that low IQ test takers over predict their test performance in post test surveys and high IQ scorers under predict.
To summarize: idiots aren’t even smart enough to realize they’re idiots.
Posted on November 17th, 2009 at 6:11 am
Downright scary. A wonder this place has not been closed down due to someone killing themselves with the dis-information.
Posted on November 17th, 2009 at 8:40 am
anyone who asks a question on here and then does not do the proper research to back up the answer is a fool indeed
Posted on November 17th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Not really, it is kind of annoying.
Posted on November 17th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Honestly, I question if their all kids ? On the otherhand, if someone is asking for an opinion then you cant down someone for not following suit because theirs is different. At the same time I said something about this the other day and that is, no matter how hard anyone tries, you cant provide your opinion like its a fact.
When I first started here on the answers forum, I tried to give all the info I could on the subjects I felt like I could. Now I cant take it seriously anymore. On top of that, I’m almost sick by the 9mm and 30.06 becoming the answer for everything thats asked as far as hunting around here regardless if its opinion or not. It seems to me of those 10 answers that are the same in the question your speaking of, 8 of those will be from people who just grabbed someone elses answer from the past and used it as their own.
I will also say that I still learn things from here all the time. Ofcourse, I do ALOT of research from other locations when I find an interesting answer that I want to know more about. Its hard for me to pick out false truth on elk hunting and small game because I have never had anything to do with it. Same goes for old military rifles for the most part.
I feel “expert” is an over used term and I truely dont feel it applies to 99% of the people here answering questions on this forum. If anyone of us were “experts” at hunting, we would be making a living doing it. Same with many of the subjects, when you see two different experts claiming two different facts then its clear someone is not an expert. Thats just my thoughts however and they could be wrong because, Im not an “expert” in classing people.
Posted on November 17th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Well Butch you just made my Hmmm list. I like to answer some of the questions on here and do my best to provide accurate information. I DO NOT consider myself an expert in firearms and weapons, my background is that of a trained armorer. I have been through over 100 different classes, training seminars, manufactures training, repair and modification schools, safety lectures, and ammunition briefs, modifications, ballistics, trajectory theory, ladalada that I’ve lost freakin count. No I’m not an expert but I have a good idea of what makes the projectile leave the muzzle. I answer most of my questions by sending a private email to the person asking the question, some things are best kept private.
What bothers me the most is when someone ask a question that is totally inappropriate to the hunting and shooting sports. When someone ask about shooting unicorns or bigfoot, that really makes me wonder what in in the hell is the future coming to. I could rant and rave on here but its really not worth it. So I’ll just read along and when there’s a decent question that I can provide an informed and experienced answer to I’ll give it a go.
Posted on November 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
My 11 year old son completed his Hunter Education course this last fall, and he was able to carry his own .243 when we went deer hunting. Before he even started the class he knew how to operate his rifle, clean it and was shooting 2 /12 inch groups or less at 100 yards consistently. When he took the Hunter Ed test he scored 71 out of 75 questions, better than half the adults in the class.He has even shot my 30-06, but that is too much gun for him to actually be comfortable with. I take him out in the woods to teach him hunting skills, and re-enforce time and again the importance of weapon knowledge, basic ballistics and respect for every action he does when handling a weapon.
I have been hunting since 1973, and have owned a lot of guns, and reload for a few even now. So, most people who actually have some experience do not appreciate the “Rambo,Dirty Harry,Scarface,etc” type of mentality. When someone is asking about what type weapon to use on a T. Rex you just have to shake your head. I’ll provide input on the things I know about: elk and deer hunting, cartridge and gun choice for types of shooting situations, reloading and similar things. I would never suggest gunsmith changes or pretend I’m an expert on handguns, because those are out of my league. So yes, it is amazing the numbers who think because they’ve seen it in a movie or heard about it somewhere that they swear it’s true.
Getting back on track, guns are weapons, not tools, and definitely not toys to entertain your self with; so at least they DO ask questions that make sense sometimes.